Wednesday, July 16, 2008
What John McCain Thinks is Funny
In an appearance before the National League of Cities and Towns in Washington D.C., McCain supposedly asked the crowd if they had heard "the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die?" I wonder if those Hillary Clinton supporting women who refuse to support Barack Obama and threaten to vote for John McCain find this to be funny?
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so not funny.
mccain's gonna have a terrible turnout with women. that's a given. somedays i wonder if he's even trying to win.
I wish it were a given Corey. There are quite a few irrational women who are pissed off that Hillary lost and are threatening to vote for McCain. It may just be posturing, but it could be for real, too. I just hope they come around, but if not, I hope they just stay home and don't vote at all rather than vote for the anti-woman McCain...
If I have this right, McCain is a sexist because of a joke he may have told 22 years ago? And with that for possibly calling his wife a cunt around that same time frame? I will attempt to be the voice of reason her. Obama, McCain and B Clinton are all sexist men. They all have actions to support the accusations. That is why they all 3 have been called such. 22 years is a long time and it shows me the Democrats are having a difficult time coming up with much to smear McCain on. The service remarks backfired, the surge has been a great success so I would think they would take on some of his policies. He has some very questionable positions. A joke 2 decades ago is so petty and desperate.
From the article:
"Till this day it has never been proven definitively true or false whether the Senator ever said the line. "
So an offensive joke he may or may not have told 22 years ago makes him "the anti-woman McCain?"
I find it interesting that the attacks that come from the left-leaning blogs have little or nothing to do with real issues. Could it be because so many of the same people were swooning over McCain just a few years ago? Or maybe that Obama has been steadily drifting to the positions McCain has held all along?
For all the talk we hear about wanting a real discussion of the issues, there sure seems to be a lot of focus on incidentals.
Well said g.
I just wish the joke had been funnier. If this is the type of stuff which puts a stake in McCain's political heart, the joke should made you laugh your ass off.
here ya go. the link is from a left-leaning site, pointing out substantial policy differences between obama and mccain.
since you seem to want some of this.
If Obama were running against the McCain of 8 to 10 years ago, then his positions would be closer to Obama's. As it is, it is VERY EASY to compare and constrast McCain's positions with Obama's and "left-leaning bloggers" point these things out or link to the candidate web site for such EASY things. Ridiculous and stupid things, like these jokes (yes, plural) that McCain told, need to be pointed out because they are the kind of thing that point to a person's "reality" (instead of a long list of McCain's flip-flopped positions that may or may not actually be the candidate's "reality"). The "jokes" are misogynistic and not funny. I challenge anyone to come up with Barack Obama doing anything similar. The absurd mouse claims that Obama is sexist and that there are actions to support that. This is verbal diarrhea unless you can point to such accusation. But we all know you can't.
Furthermore, McCain thinks he is funny but he is NOT. And his attempts at humor show his scary personality (like giving Iranians cancer via cigarettes).
I heard on the radio that the McCain camp was responding to the coverage of these jokes and admitting having told them (I have no current support for that claim other than hearing it on the radio). But he has told very obnoxious "jokes" - like the Chelsea Clinton one.
McCain is a relic and he thinks like one. He is living in the past (he thinks Czechosolvakia is still a country). We need a president living in the present!
This is where you fail again CSM. Sexism is a matter of opinion, not fact. It is much like racism and the black city councilman who believes the term Black Hole is racism. I googled Obama and sexism just for fun and got over 2.6 million hits and numerous editorials on his blatant sexism. If it makes you feel better about Obama you can close your eyes to it. The boys at the top tend to all be sexist.
You blather on and on and say nothing mouse. Google hits? So what? Show me some evidence!
coreyd,
Sorry, but that link doesn't qualify for "discussing the issues." I don't consider "Here's what Barack said" to be discussion.
csm,
That's fine, but you have to play it both ways. The people who are jumping on these incidental things like a coarse, offensive sense of humor, not knowing how to use a computer, calling the Czech Republic "Czechoslovakia, etc. are the same ones who were crying "foul" when others were talking about Wright, Ayers, the remark about those who "cling to guns and religion," etc.
It's too bad that some people are so enamored with Obama that they can't see that he's just another politician, just like all the others. He breaks his promises when it's politically expedient. He panders. He waffles on issues, even blatantly flip-flopping at times. He's beholden to special interests. And he lets his minions snipe at his opponent, always making sure he doesn't get his own hands dirty.
Don't get me wrong. McCain is just another politician, too. But let's at least be realistic about the election. It's going to be just like all the others. And whoever wins, we will quickly see that he is just another politician.
While I agree that Obama is a politician, he is quite different from McCain in many, significant ways that transcend the issues. Your assertions are not facts. I see no evidence of "waffl(ing) on issues" or "blatantly flip-flopping"... the right wants this to be so because their candidate is sooooo bad.
g, a quick question, if i may.
were there any presidents in the last century who don't qualify as "just another politician" in your book?
coreyd,
There have been some politicians and presidential candidates, although they are few and far between in DC. And more often than not, they don't win. On the "left," I've mentioned Diane Feinstein before. Also, Moynihan & Liberman. On the right, Kemp, Keyes, etc. None of them are perfect, of course. But they hold their beliefs and positions firmly. They don't water things down just to get elected.
Presidents? Carter... maybe others, but I prefer to stay within my lifetime. Presidential candidates? Independents-Anderson & Perot. Dems & Reps as mentioned above.
But the reason I mention Obama as being "just another politician" is the heavy emphasis thus far (from his campaign and from his followers) that he's somehow different... a fresh, new type of politician. Hogwash!
csm,
Just a couple examples...
waffling: Iraq, DC gun ban, Jerusalem, NAFTA
flip-flopping: FISA, campaign finance
By the way, if Obama's positions have been so solid and consistent, then why is he getting so much heat from the progressive/liberal base that helped him defeat Clinton in the primaries?
The reason Presidential candidates are always "just another politician" is because of the huge powerlines being constructed which all flow to Washington D.C. With this much on the line, it doesn't pay to be anything else.
bawdy, same question:
were there any presidents in the last century who don't qualify as "just another politician" in your book?
Carter was the best human being of the lot, but because of his bad luck and his positions he wasn't the best President. Other than him, simply put, no.
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