Hey, did you know that according to dimwit right wing commentator Steve Doocy, McSames's VP pick Sarah Palin does have foreign policy experience after all?
DOOCY: But the other thing about her, she does know about international relations because she is right up there in Alaska right next door to Russia
I briefly listened to right wing radio today, too, and a similar statement was made, but it was even more ridiculous because it ended with the commentator (don't know who it was) saying "...and Russia hasn't invaded Alaska, have they?"
It was so stupid I went limp... and then when I realized the guy was serious I laughed so hard snot bubbles came out my nose. If this is the best they can do to prop up this poor choice, the next coupla months are gonna be interesting indeed!
Saturday, August 30, 2008
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doocy is a dunce. fo sho.
seen the daily show/colbert report's take on palin yet? good stuff.
anybody watch this week on abc this morning? cindy mccain was repeating doocy's point, that somehow governing alaska qualifies as foreign policy experience because it's close to russia. are americans really that gullible?
Doocy? Who the heck is he? Ok, well, I never listen to talk radio, so I have no familiarity with them.
I'm sure the whole Alaska/Russia thing has been distributed as a general talking point since I've heard it now at least three times from three different sources.
But if the McSame camp believes that Hillary supporters will rally behind him because of Palin that is severely underestimating the intelligence of women.
And yes, CoreyD, I loved Samantha Bee's analysis of how Palin and Clinton might be completely different ideologically, but that they were extact gynecologically. Brilliant stuff.
I don't know who Doocy it, but it's nonsense, of course. Palin is a foreign policy neophyte... as is Obama.
CSM is right. Many of Hillary supporters are very bright and think for themselves. They don't just vote for whoever the DNC trots out. They vote for the candidate not the party.
As a long time supporter of the Clintons, there are more than you think.
Hillary Supporters for McCain
Hillary Supporters roast Obama
Lets Try Again Hillaryt Supporters Roast NoBama
Yes, there are Hillary supporters who do not support Obama. They are idiots. Obama's policies are very close to those Hillary was embracing. To not support Obama after being a Hillary supporter, for the most part, says that you are a bitter loser more concerned about personalities than policies.
Before I am accused of saying something I did not --> Of course, I am not saying that everyone who support McSame is an idiot. If you want more of the same that we have had the last 8 years from GWB, then by all means, you should vote for McSame. He voted with the Bush administration 95% of the time (look it up).
to say nothing of the obvious policy differences between hilary & mccain...
do you really think pro-choicers are gonna vote for an admin that will do everything in its power to overturn roe v wade?
when mcsame added phalin to the ticket, he highlighted those policy differences. indeed, he made the gap broader, rather than closing it. the longer we hear about sarah palin's social conservatism, the more apparent that will become.
Very true Corey... I think, at this point, the Dems are hoping that Palin sticks it out instead of withdrawing from the ticket in shame. With her on the ballot McSame becomes even easier to defeat in a general election.
All this makes me much more comfortable in voting for Bob Barr(admittedly not the ideal candidate for a libertarian's purposes, but...). We can all jump on this bandwagon and rip the Reps, but Biden ain't a great choice either.
All the "progressives" on this site should have had their reservations over the Biden choice if for no other reason than his vote on the last Bankruptcy Bill and his ties to MBNA. We can all rail against those evil(tongue-in-cheek)big oil companies, but the real evil in relation to the middle and lower classes resides in the credit card companies. At least with the oil companies they provide tangible goods. The credit card companies lure consumers into their financial whorehouses, get them hooked on easy credit and then put the screws to them and keep the pressure on to keep them under their thumbs. Biden couldn't be much of a "progressive" for just this reason only. Just another political move to get elected, so where is the change, really?
Bawdy, I sincerely wish i had your guts. My heart tells me NoBama is so not ready that I must vote just to keep him out.
For the NoBama camp their will be Hillary supporters voting for McCain. Their positions on the major issues are not that different. Both are ready to lead is the most important. Both voting for and now wanting to leave Iraq responsibly. Both have solid & reliable foreign relations experience and both have plans to strengthen the economy. Last I checked the position on abortion was fourth and most do not support partial birth abortion as NoBama does.
Personally, I think a Libertarian voting for Bob Barr would suffer from the same malady that a Rep or Dem who only votes for their party suffers from - that is, my party is the only way to go.
csm, as you must know by now there isn't a single "party" which lines up exactly with my vision of what I believe needs to happen. There isn't a single candidate running who even comes close to the way I choose, as a citizen of this country, to profess is the right way to go about things. You might think I would be better off not voting at all but I can't not vote. And since I cannot not vote; I look at the candidates one by one(and if I was an Average Joe, that would be two candidates).
Barak Obama - Though I find Barak a decent guy, well-spoken and generally good hearted, I see nothing but the same as I would from any other average Democrat. One quick example, Obama was fast and loose with one billion dollars for Georgian relief right after their latest encounter with Russia. I realize G.W. Motherfucker just announced his own billion dollar package, but I don't agree with his little present either. My first thought when I heard that was, "Where the fuck are you going to get that billion from". Then I remembered the government printing presses.
We have talked before about healthcare and his initial plan isn't way beyond the fringe, but it is a baby step to ultimately having everybody on a Medicare styled plan in the future. And I am a first hand witness to the myriad problems with the Medicare system. I cannot in good conscience vote for that.
His stance on Afghanistan is as wrong as Motherfucker's was on Iraq. There is absolutely no national interest for this country to have battalions of our soldiers in Afghanistan. It is a war we cannot win. Russia could not do it with 300,000 troops and we won't be able to even with all of our troops in Iraq transferred to Afghanistan. So there is the seed of a black hole Obama can take us to, sure ain't the promise land! I can't vote for that.
John McCain - If you just superficially listen to the man; you might think hey, he is just an average guy who believes in the greatness of this country. The more you listen though, the more you get the picture this guy really wants government to be all so collective, the individual be damned. He would make a good Queen of an ant farm. The man bleeds unConstitutionality. McCain-Feingold is a Constitutional travesty. Another exhibit, voting for the Patriot Act. Our service to this country would normally be to be as productive and moral as you can be. In abnormal times like times when our country has been attacked or an outbreak of epidemic disease occurs, citizens band together under the President to solve the problem in the national interest. Our country is great because of our individual freedom, our financial system and private property, not because of some duty we have to the collective whole. McCain also believes in the federal government first(why not that is where his pensions come from); he isn't a federalist.
McCain has an old world view of the world and even though history is a valuable tool, this planet is changing fast. I still believe the people of this world will morph into one - humans, not Germans, Thai or Mexicans. And I think as we come together as a people(ejecting all organized religions would be a big start)I feel we as Americans owe it to the world to help set up a system which would evolve to be based on the individual instead of the faction. I don't see McCain helping this; I see him digging in his heels. He is an old thinker.
He may be a hero, but he has no balls politically. Exhibits - South Carolina, year 2000. Comes up with the best immigration plan and lets his party stick it up his ass. Letting the Evangelical wing feed on the last shreds of his dignity. I can't vote for this either.
Ralph Nader - This man would have the government wipe my ass for me, with government approved ass-wiping paper with non-animal tested emoliants with soothing aloe grown on government approved farms with laborers who are paid in the forth quintile of the government approved pay spectrum. If we encounter a problem, their ain't a government program, process or pubah that can't solve it for ya! I can't vote for that.
The Constitution Party(I don't remember right offhand the name of the candidate)- Well to put it succinctly, they're too fucking religious, which, well, makes them kinda unConstitutional. I guess you interpret the Constitution just like the Good Book, eh? I can't vote for that.
That leaves Bob Barr. I have already admitted he isn't my dream candidate. He was a Republican. He is very devout. He hates marijuana. He is against abortion. He ain't fond of gays.
He says he has seen the light. I can't tell. He says he wants to be a Libertarian. He could have stayed a Republican and made some sort of political life for himself, but he became a Libertarian. I came to it young, mid-20's, but who is to say it wouldn't come later in life. Not me. If he says he is a Libertarian, and he talks like a Libertarian maybe he will act like a Libertarian. I believe in L/liberta rian ideals and want those ideas to grow in this arena. To grow you need votes, my vote.
One last thing, there is very little chance my lowly candidate will win, so if I am wrong and my ideals would destroy this country, it wouldn't happen, he doesn't get in. I am not so sanguine about the two main candidates. I can see both fucking up this country royally, internally and externally. I wouldn't want that on my head.
Looks like even McSame is using this stupid argument now!
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/03/mccain-russia-alaska/
Do you think McSame will nominate somebody who lives next to a bank to be Secretary of the Treasury?
That makes as much sense as the Palin/Alaska/Russia horse shit...
The federal government and it's leaders, elected and not, make sense only through the lens of self importance and sifted through the strainer of a pickpocket's brain.
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