Tuesday, July 22, 2008

The Ball is in Your Court Senator McCain

Question: "What would or should we do if, in the post-June 30th period, a so-called sovereign Iraqi government asks us to leave, even if we are unhappy about the security situation there?"

McCain's Answer: "Well, if that scenario evolves than I think it's obvious that we would have to leave because -- if it was an elected government of Iraq, and we've been asked to leave other places in the world. If it were an extremist government then I think we would have other challenges, but I don't see how we could stay when our whole emphasis and policy has been based on turning the Iraqi government over to the Iraqi people."

Makes you wonder how Grandpa will flip and flop now that Iraq's national security adviser said Tuesday his country will not accept any security deal with the United States unless it contains specific dates for the withdrawal of U.S.-led forces.

McCain is an absolute train wreck!



The Shiite leadership, of which the national security adviser is a part of, are proxies of the Iranians. Iran would like to control ALL of Iraq if they could. They would be immensely happy if they could just get control of the oil rich south. They would be satisfied if Iraq kept a Shiite dominated government. Their national interest would be an Iraq with no offensive military capability. These Iranian ideas are based on hundreds of years of history between Persia and Mesopotamia. Therefore nothing will get settled without Iran signing off. This pressure to set a timeline for our departure is coming from the Iranians; the faster we get out, the faster the Iranians can fulfill their wishes and with a better outcome for them. We are obviously going to look out for the best deal for our interests which include, free flowing oil to the market, containment of Iranian power and the placation of the Arabian Penninsula. This is the crux of the situation and the Iraqi government is just a bit player.

This is what is so confusing to me, why aren't the candidates and the President telling us this? My guess is that after years and years of bad mouthing the Iranians(Axis of Evil)to turn around and say, "Gee, they aren't that bad after all" wouldn't sit very well with our uneducated population(just picture millions of Americans with that "what the fuck" look on their faces). To be sure Iran has the very same problem as we are the "Great Satan". The respective governments have to prepare their respective peoples to the changes taking place, but for the meantime the candidates have to play dumb(shouldn't be too tough, eh?).

Anony Mouse said...

I quote CNN here.

"But a spokesman for al-Maliki said his remarks "were misunderstood, mistranslated and not conveyed accurately.
Government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said the possibility of troop withdrawal was based on the continuance of security improvements, echoing statements that the White House made Friday after a meeting between al-Maliki and U.S. President Bush."

Obama and his crew has shown the inexperience once again. Getting your news source from a blog is always a highly risky affair CSM. I couldn't resist.

coreydbarbarian said...

uhm, mousey, maliki made that statement after the white house had demanded he rescind his remarks to the der speigel (german newspaper). der speigel stands by their story.
the very next day, maliki's spokesman reiterated the idea of endorsing obama's plan, even going so far as speaking positive of timetables in english. no room for misinterpretation there, mousey.
and the day after that maliki met with obama, and again praised a timeline of 16-months for a withdrawal.
what did you do, stick your fingers in your ears and go, "la la la la" after you heard what you wanted to hear? silly ol' mouse.

Anony Mouse said...

Oh, the White House demanded this. Well that sets the record straight Barby. I suppose the surge is only working because the White House demanded it be reported as such as well. Hell, I hope we withdraw the troops in 6 months but my hope doesn't rest in Obama. This is what happens when you make barrackobama.com your homepage.

csm said...

Getting your news from CNN is just as, if not more, dangerous than getting it from some blogs.

coreydbarbarian said...

oh mousey. you so crazy!

here is a link you should take a look at.

you might learn something. but i doubt it.

btw, the surge appears to have strengthened the peace that began with the sunni awakening. the fact that iran called of the shia militias doesn't hurt, either.

Anony Mouse said...

True CSM, very true. A nice misture seems to work best. A little CNN, Fox, BBC and Reuters provides pretty good analysis.

coreydbarbarian said...

i can go for the bbc & reuters, but
fox is racist.
personally, if i'm watching tv news at all, i much prefer gwen ifill on washington week and newshour (pbs, y'all).


I think I have posted before while I was in Costa Rica earlier this year we stayed at a place which only had Fox News for a news outlet so I got exposed for the first time. I could not believe what I was watching. The only thing I ever agreed with fcc about was that Fox News was entertainment and not real news. It entertains right wing extremists(American)by getting their blood boiling to the point of salivation. It entertains the left by inducing fits of laughter as they roll on the floor until they realize that many actually believe and hang on every word or idea professed. That's Entertainment!

Anony Mouse said...

Fox is offset by CNN. The balance is delicate but proves quite effective. But, Fox as racist is just mere stupidity. Seriously, why some people try to harbor hatred towards a media outlet is intriguing even when they admit they don’t watch. They probably have the most diverse group of individuals in the news business.

How did you like Costa Rica Bawdyscot? My wife and I have been considering a trip in that part of the world next year.

csm said...

And many do believe everything they see and hear on TV. Just last week I learned of someone I know (an older Republican gentleman) who cannot abide The Colbert Report because he originally thought that Colbert was a real conservative.

Wow, is all I can say...


anony(mouse just seems a tad disrespectful),

My better half and I have been to Costa Rica twice and loved it both times. Spent most of our time on the Pacific Coast, but did get into the mountains and the preserve areas the last time. I would recommend Costa Rica to anybody with a great love of nature. The people are friendly and the water you can drink, anywhere(all water comes from one aquifer). Nobody has a beef with the Costa Ricans as evidenced by the fact it has no standing army; quite a feat considering Central and South American history.

Not knowing what kind of traveller you are, anony, I still think I could recommend Costa Rica to you with confidence.